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hydrocarbon soot

jumbly — Mon, 12 May 2008 08:40:34 GMT

I think it's worth pointing out that the soot that's left after burning seems to have a very negative effect on the healing process I recomenend vigourous scrubbing after the show with auyrevedic soap

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Turn Your Head and Coif*

Eric — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:17:37 GMT

This has probably been posted, but I've heard no discussion, pro or con.

L.A. Looks brand Mega (and Mega Mega) spray hair gel seems to be very fire resistant.

I've not put this to a complete test (torching my head), but I've sprayed and tried to burn various bits of fluff and hunks of hair. Didn't burn.

I wouldn't use it as a general fire retardant, but it's worth exploring for your hair.

Seems to work nicely as a hair gell, too.

* A hairdresser's shop sign briefly seen on one of the streets in the TV series, The Simpson's.

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flame inhalation

jumbly — Sat, 03 May 2008 11:40:35 GMT

I guess I get a little too excited and stop taking care as much as I should ---sometimes after I've dropped them and I quickly go to pick them up .,I lean over and as i pick up the flame goes up ,I'm short of oxygen anyway so breathing strong ,a the flame -or at least some very hot vapour goes down my throat and scalds, So while it's possible to achieve great performance on adrenaline I feel the best is cool calm concentrated and it's still possible to push the edges of the possible back

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when a flaming object is falling toward your face...

jaine_is_good_juju — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:44:41 GMT

what should the person who threw it yell at you?

if they yell "Look out?", the tendency is to look where they are looking, namely up, and think "Look out for what?"
and then a poi lands on your eye. see new pictures in the photo section.

instead, i propose the yelling of "duck". much unlike "look out" which might cause the endangered subject to look for what they are looking out for, "duck" is much less likely to send you looking for waterfowl in the your proximity. instead, you will take action and cover your stupid blue head.

happy leap day!

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A really narly 2nd degree burn related to white gas.

Psyteknology — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:38:44 GMT

We all make mistakes, and wellp, I made one I definitely won't forget!!
I was @ a party and we were using burn barrels to keep warm, one of the burn barrels was dying down so we packed it with some more wood, and I decided to get the barrel going by pouring some white gas right into the barrel.

The plume came up and lit the coleman can on fire, when I immediately put it down, it splashed some on my left pant leg. I froze dispite the many times I try to think of rapid solutions to such a problem. One of my friends yelled STOP DROP ROLL about 3x before I could react. Needless to say, SDR did not help matters. I ended up being snuffed out by a couple of friends who jumped on it.

The interesting part was that my leg was still cooking even after it being put out, which I totally understand. Thank goodness for good friends and cold gallons of water!

Here are some narly pics of the burn and it's healing process.
http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/psyteknology/HolidazeCircuit72007/Burn%20Healing%20122007/

The drs @ Urgent care prescribed Silver Sulfadiazine and Cephalexin which i thought was weird b/c it almost seems like doubling up on the antibiotics.

Love In Light and Burn It Bright! )'(

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Ching Wan Hung

Ms. Y aka Tushita aka Maoli aka Eve-On — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:52:21 GMT

This can be used for 1st and 2nd degree burns, including chemical burns. Find it in any chinatown. I'm sure online as well.
Great for reducing scaring as well. Got a good second degree (on my thumb) this year at bman by accidentally touching a
metal cable sovenier cut off the remains of the man- (lucky for me there was an ice chest on board the art car.)
Got back to my camp and put on Ching Wan Hung and went to medic camp. They didn't eve have silvadine the first time I went.
Lucky i had my stuff, got a surgical glove cut off to keep my thumb protected- about all I needed from the medics. No scar at all. Heals rapidly.
btw this stuff is also good for hemoroids as well as chaffing and razor burn- cheap too under ten bucks.
I carry it with me and have recommended it to emt's/firemen etc
this stuff works great.

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2nd deg. burn (also see photos)

BlueHairedSarah — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:15:10 GMT

Diagnosis: 2nd Degree burns covering the majority of my right hand and forearm, with the possibility of 3rd degree in certain spots.

Wednesday, 24th October I was rehearsing for a fire show on the Amherst commons. The rehearsal had been going pretty god-awful, especially for a show to be performed in two days. Towards the end of the rehearsal, the scene change before the final act we had a kitchen pot with a small amount of white gas in it, which was used for lighting eating, and as a general light source in other scenes; the pot was suppose to move forward a little bit. I picked up the pot by the handle; the wind pushed the flame towards me, so I tried to reposition myself and then I went to put it down. Putting the pot down again caused the flame to shoot towards me, so I dropped the pot, which caused the lit fuel in it to splash onto my right arm. I was holding a duv in my left hand, and made one feeble attempt to put the fire out, but was quickly consumed by the pain of it and began screaming for help from the safeties. One girl was nearby holding a sheet that had been used as a prop, and got to me in a little over 5 seconds, tackling my arm. Some of the fuel had dripped onto the bottom of my pants, so when they saw that my arm was being taken care of, two others dove at my leg to put it out. I later found out most of these details from a friend who saw what happened as they’re pretty fuzzy to me.

Once I was put out, it took a few seconds for it to register what had happened, and then I crumpled into tears because of the pain of it. In the dark, the skin on my arm looked like it could be completely charred, but someone shined a light on it, which showed that the parts that looked black were really rolls of dead skin. I was able to keep my mind clear enough to know that I needed to get to a hospital, and I was able to tell those around me where I had placed my keys, cell phone, and wallet. Sarah, who is a trained EMT for my school, helped me keep my breathing under control and had someone phone 911. The police came first, and I was able to tell them my name and birthdate, and then I was walked to the ambulance.

First entering the ambulance was agony due to the 5+ degree temperature difference between outside and the ambulance. I was set on a gurney the paramedic asked what happened, and took down my information. I was told that, while I should do what was most comfortable, they had laid sterile sheets on my, so it would be safe to rest my arm on my chest; the only position I could bare to hold my arm in was lifted high in the air above me. The paramedics put an IV in my left arm and immediately dosed me with a four of morphine. He explained that they would be taking me to Baystate ER, 30 minutes away in Springfield instead of a closer hospital because of the severity of the burn. Over the 30minut ride, they gave me two more fours of morphine, making a total of 12. It didn’t make any difference to the pain.

Upon arriving in the hospital, I was wheeled into the main ER; a chorus of “yeeshoowwoch” followed me, which I must admit made me smile a little bit. I was given a different drug through the IV, which I was old was a synthetic, and therefore stonger, version of morphine. It wasn’t until the second dose of that I began to feel pain relief. Within 5 minutes of my arrival I was wheeled into my own room.

The nurse told me that the trauma team would be in to see me soon; she had me change into a hospital gown (she had to cut off my shirt), saying that they would cut off my clothes to insure that my arm was the only thing burned. She explained that I was considered a trauma patient because of the severity of the burn, and it would simply mean that I would be treated with a greater priority. They were so concerned about the burn because it was circular (went al l the way around my wrist, and part of my forearm) and because it was over a major joint (wrist). There was also the possibility that small portions of the burn were 3rd degree. I was told that they were considering sending me to the burn center in Boston (an hour and a half away) – in the end they opted not to. I was also told that there a small chance (10-15%) that I’ll need a skin graft, which will be determined at my check up visit on Monday.
The doctors washed the burn with surgical sponges soaked with saline, then they used scissors to cut away as much of the dead skin as they could. They covered the burn with Silvadene using a tongue compressor stick. Then they dressed it by applying surgical sponges on top of the cream, loosely wrapping my hand and forearm in gauze, then fitting a netting sleeve over it.
I was released from the hospital a little before 3am, and driven home by the three friends who followed me to the hospital. I was prescribed with silvadene creme, Ibuprfen, and oxycodone; but the nurse gave me a few single doses of the oxycoden to get me through the night and morning. Continuing through the next day, I had trouble keeping anything in my system, including water. My guess is that it was a reaction to the large amount of morphine that I was on, and the oxycoden. I have since taken both drugs with a full glass of water, and something to eat, like toast or crackers. While my stomach is not completely back to usual, taking the pills with food has helped a lot.
I have to wash, apply the silvadene, and redress he burn once a day. We start by cutting of the outer netting. I then submerge my arm in tepid water, to allow the bandages to unstuck from my arm. I then submerge my arm in the water, and my roommate will use a surgical sponge to carefully dab away loose ski and remaining crème. She then applies a new layer of crème with a tongue compressor, and bandages my arm as the doctors instructed. The first two days the guaze had been almost entirely stained yellow from the pus of the burn, but the yellow has started to decrease. The cleaning and dressing process is by far the most painful part, even when I have take the oxycoden 30 minutes prior. Mornings tend to be really painful, too. Apart from that, the pain is kept under control with the medication. This is the most painful thing I’ve ever been through, and that’s including the major jaw surgery I had 2 ½ years ago. I will update again after the check up on Monday.

I have included links to photos from today, day three, of my arm:
During bandage removal: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/frozenprncss/IMG_2110.jpg

The burn:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/frozenprncss/IMG_2112.jpg

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winners from the Neo-Crocker

jaine_is_good_juju — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:10:14 GMT

in the tribe photos. not a clue what they are from. it could be quick links, it could be chain... eh? about five days old.

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Call for photos from BRC: Fire Injuries

Pi — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:25:33 GMT

Okay guys...let's get those BRC 07 fire injuries posted.

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nomination for most recklessly dangerous fire prop...

seraphus — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:55:26 GMT

Meteor. It flys, it f*'s people up, it can hit you three times in one go-round.

I was spinning practice today and hit myself in the collarbone so hard that I fell to the ground crying. I've not cryed from an injury since I was kicked in the groin in middle school. For the first time in probably years, I lost my ability to even utter curse words, and was reduced to a sob-wracked mess.

You really know it's bad when you can't even say "fuck".

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~Sick Fire Breather~

bliss-butterfly — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:22:04 GMT

.....not as in "That fire breathing was syck dude..." more like a friend experiencing vomiting and dry heaves for a couple hours and the next morning fever, chest pains, stomach pains and back spasms. Four day fever spiking at 103, _that_ kind of sick.

It was his first time fire breathing and i believe he was using lamp oil. What kinds of fuel to most fire breathers prefer? Thoughts on white gas? I was curious also to what kinds of reactions other fire breathers with or without lots of experience have had. This is specifically at internal fire art injury.... the juiciest kind with all the potential for internal organ damage...

THIS IS TAKING IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL PEOPLE!

Burns, bumps and bruises are so passe'....so last year.....where's the real danger? Some Mere Flesh Wounds??? Can we talk about something that could cause some real damage here? Lay it Down.

I love seeing fire breathing and would try it myself, but i've been really hesitate to put lamp oil or white gas in my mouth. I am even less inclined now. Does high pecentage booze work (151 or moonshine?) how are the flames for those that have tried? At least then i'd be absorbing fuel that i'd consume anyway. for that special occassion-of course....

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aloe Vera/barbados

jumbly — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:02:28 GMT

THis beautiful succulent plant is an excellent healer of burns used by U.S.milatary..use the cooling pulp as first aid and to aid recovery and new skin growth..jumblymamba

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help

Ginger — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:26:31 GMT

I am probably going to the emergancy room today when I leave work. On saturday I breathed fire for the first time using Tiki Torch Fluid and a Tiki Torch. Pretty Dumb I know but I had been drinking and thought it was a good Idea. I coughed alot in the beginning but eventually it left. Well, now as each day passes it's getting harder and harder to breath. I can only take short breaths. Plus my joints are aching. I have to chalk this one up to my most stupid moment. I guess I will see what the ER has to say about my condition.

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Good (and brief) article on treating burn injuries

Pi — Thu, 17 May 2007 20:18:17 GMT

http://firstaid.about.com/od/injuriesathome/ht/06_burns.htm

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more to first aid kit than Burn relief

creativeflame — Fri, 04 May 2007 20:40:25 GMT

I was at a regional burn, element (SC) and spinnign an unfamiliar staff, did a pirhouette/ hi toss, and the
metal sheathing of a wood staff sliced my skull. I felt my head, and said "damn, there was a lot of fuel on that...
then when my fingers stuck together and didnt smell like fuel in the dark,
I said to myself...this is bad.
My first reaction was embarassment that i didnt land the trick, and darted off to assess the damage.
When the blood kept pouring out of my head, I aked loudly for first aid.
Most people were caught off gueard, but finally found a first aid kit.
And there was nothing in it for my condition.

SO my suggestion is, to keep ingredients in your kit for lacerations, including some good lengths of gauze, not jsut those little patches,
and a minibottle of hydro peroxide/isopropol alcohol for immediate care.
The little packet of neosporin in there WAS good for next day care in a camping environment, though.

Good thing i had some reiki and 4 hands of pressure to compensate for the lack of immediate care.
Needless to say, my kit is about to be revamped.
bash

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accident at Hot Sex Fire Show?

maxweb — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:43:03 GMT

I was at Jennifer Steele's annual Hot Sex Fire Show on the playa Thursday night when a performer had what appeared to be a fire-breathing accident at the beginning of his routine. Safeties and medics were on him pretty quickly, but I still wonder what happened, hope he was ok, and am sending out healing vibes. I think the performer was with the Pyrosutra crew. Any details would be appreciated.

shawn shiva.

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Cover those scars!

seraphus — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:16:22 GMT

I saw Fuego's pic and his mention of the sunburn, it reminded me that two weeks ago I got sunburn on a scar (collarbone) THROUGH a t-shirt. I do work in quite intense sun and intense stuff (perhaps more intense than bm itself?), but it is enough to post a reminder:

Sunscreen (spf 30) on scar tissue!!!

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The ultimate burner first aid kit?

leahtrix — Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:57:31 GMT

Been lurking here for a bit, sorry, no pics of injuries.

Anyway, my mission is to get the best possible first aid kit on site where the philly burners practice. And put together a basic "What to do if" that would be posted.

I've read through all of the threads on here, and the articles linked from them, and have learned a lot, especially about basic do's and don'ts. (marauder, by any chance are you are still synthesizing/compiling burn care info?)

Throughout posts, some specific products have been mentioned that seem like no-brainer includes (antibacterial soap, non-adherent gauze, aloe gel, lavender essential oil). Some others that seem obvious include cloth medical tape, paramedic scissors and vinyl gloves. I suppose a clean sheet be a good idea too just in case (fates forbid) someone ends up with burns covering a larger area than what gauze could take care of. What am I missing?

One route seems to be just ordering a pre-packaged burn first aid kit and then just adding lavender e.o. and aloe gel.

The two most relevent i've found are:

http://www.e-firstaidsupplies.com/first-aid-kit-26.html

and

http://www.first-aid-product.com/industrial/burn-care-first-aid-kits.htm

Anybody have any experience with the "Water-Jel burn dressings" the second one includes?

Feedback greatly appreciated...

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initiation

leahtrix — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 08:01:38 GMT

Funny, in the midst of doing all of this burn care research, I got my first ever fire arts related burn last weekend while fuel/flame size testing on my new fire fingers.

(Certainly not the worst burn I've ever gotten, I've experienced first hand the melting effect of synthetic fibers, but that was just red-wine-induced negligence - reaching over a candle.)

Just two little tic-tac sized kisses from one of the hot metal posts on the inside of my knuckles - nothing cold running water and some lavendar essential oil couldn't quell.

Totally a result of being in a dreamy/mesmerized/trance space from flame gazing.

Funny too to realize that being so still with fire can be just as dangerous as dancing around with it.

-l

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burner first aid follow up

leahtrix — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:55:19 GMT

First aid supplies are in their way and will hopefully arrive in time for "Heart Burn" the kick-ass valentine costume ball the Philadelphia Experiment is throwing on 2/10/07. (http://philly.tribe.net/event/A-new-fire-is-spreading-and-all-who-are-of-one-heart-are-called-to-burn/philadelphia-pa/6ea5f67e-2832-4aa0-b91d-8e7672e33bc3)

In preparation for performing at said event, we are doing a conclave fire safety training/review followed up by an emergency burn care presentation based on all the info i've gathered here, on burn center website, and in medical journal articles.

I want to share with you all the "crib sheet" I'll be using, but there doesn't seem to be a way to post MS Word docs though, so excuse the crude formatting.

EMERGENCY TREATMENT FOR BURNS

1. Remove source of flame, heat and/or cause of burn - extinguish flames and smoldering clothes

2. Immediately COOL the burn and ASSESS its severity (superficial/first-degree, partial thickness/second-degree, full-thickness/third-degree – burn patterns are frequently mixed, so it may be difficult to differentiate).
 Use large amounts of cool water to cool the burn. (about 10-15 minutes, but basically until pain is reduced.) Never use ice.
 If the area cannot be immersed, use burn gel or soak a clean cloth and apply it to the burn, being sure to continue adding water to keep the cloth cool.
 Large area burns (area is more than 5-10%) are critical (even if only partial thickness) and require immediate medical attention as well as extreme care in taking measures to "cool the burn but warm the patient"!
 Facial, genital and joint burns are also critical (even if only partial thickness) and require immediate medical attention.

For superficial/first-degree burns (pink, warm and painful, no blisters; affecting only uppermost layer - the epidermis):
 Once the burn has been cooled, the area should be cleansed, and then your favorite remedy applied (start with lavender essential oil or aloe vera gel, then move on to something more emollient like vitamin E).
 Keep the wounds clean and monitor them for any signs of infection (redness, swelling, etc.). Usually heals within 2-5 days with no significant scaring, peeling may occur.

If more severe than that…

3. COVER the burn – reduce risk of contamination

For partial-thickness/second-degree burns (pink or red, blistering, painful, swollen; affecting the epidermis and superficial dermis):
 Do NOT break blisters!
 If blisters do break, with clean or gloved hands, cleanse the burned area with tepid water and mild soap, pat the burned area dry (do not rub), gently apply a thin layer of your favorite antimicrobial (or burn gel if the blister broke before the burn was completely cooled) to the area and cover with non-adherent gauze. Reapply antimicrobial two or three times a day it rubs off or is absorbed by the skin or dressing.
 Intact blisters act as cover for the wound, so protect with non-adherent gauze if it’s on an area that rubs a lot against clothing or is otherwise at risk for being broken.
 Partial-thickness/second-degree burns generally heal in 7-14 days with minimal scarring. Keep the wound clean; monitor them for any signs of infection (redness, swelling, etc.).

For full-thickness/third-degree burns (brown or black or white, and leathery, dry, or charred with the tissues underneath sometimes appearing white, can be extremely painful or relatively painless if the burn destroys the nerve endings; affecting epidermis, superficial dermis, deep dermis, possibly the subcutaneous layer):

This burn is critical and requires immediate medical attention! During transport or while waiting for help…
 Cool the burn (oh, wait, you were doing that while figuring out it was full-thickness, right?)
 Remove burned / non-sticking clothing.
 Lay the person flat (unless having trouble breathing).
 Try to raise the burned areas above the level of the victim's heart if possible.
 Loosen or remove tight clothing, jewelry, belts or boots before swelling occurs.
 Use dry, sterile dressings or a clean cloth to bandage loosely.
 Keep the person warm! (Use the emergency blanket if necessary)

Never apply ice or ice packs, petroleum or oil-based ointments.

Never put hydrogen peroxide - it destroys healing tissues.

Know if someone has a pre-existing condition such as diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, asthma, or cardiac disease – these necessitate immediate medical attention even for less severe burns.

Take home message: COOL, ASSESS, PROTECT!

BURNER FIRST AID KIT

Started with kit from http://www.e-firstaidsupplies.com/first-aid-kit-26.html
2 Burn Dressings 4"x4"
1 Burn Dressing 8"x8"
6 Burn Gel Packets 1/8 oz.
4 Cold Packs 4"x5" disposable
3 Roll Gauze 4"x4yds.
1 Cohesive Bandage 3"x5yds.
8 Gauze Pads 3"x3"
2 Adhesive Tapes 1"x5yds.
1 Paramedic Scissors
4 Gloves, vinyl

adding
- emergency blanket
- non-adherent gauze pads( 3- 2"x3", 3- 3"x4")
- Eye Pads & eye wash
- assorted band-aids
- Absorbent gauze compress / traumadressing pad
- antibacterial soap/wound wash
- aloe gel
- lavender essential oil
- triple antibiotic ointment

Thanks so much to everyone hear who has shared their stories of hurt and healing, I've learned ALOT!

-l

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Call for new injury photos

Pi — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:24:43 GMT

Since I've opened the tribe up to general membership we've seen a boost of some 40% in membership. However we haven't seen any new fire injury photos. We are rapidly approaching the end of the year and its time to get those bitching 2006 fire injury photos up for review, bragging rights, condescending shakes of the head, and smug comments about how you should know better.

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Repetitive Stress Injuries and the Like

Spyrel — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:28:57 GMT

Now this may not be as gruesome as most of the posts on here, but an important post none-the-less for those of us who want to have long careers playing with fire.

For the past few weeks I have been having pain one of my wrists, and I have begun to suspect that it is due to some kind of staffing-related repetitive stress injury. Does anyone have any info on these types of inuries? What causes them? How can they be avoided? And once they develop what can be done to help them heal?

I love staffing, and I intend to keep it up until I'm an old old man, but I worry that if I'm not careful this could develop into something that will end my fire performance career.

Who'd a thought that after playing with fire for all this time my worst injury could be carpal tunnel?

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Regarding Eating Burns

Pi — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:04:19 GMT

The tissue in the mouth seems to regenerate within twenty four hours for everything except the tongue.

We have a delicate balance to strike when eating fire. Personally, I think 90% of the fire eaters out there shouldn't be doing it because they don't know WTF they're doing. Its such a non-instinctual movement, placing fire in your mouth, that most of the fire eaters I see give away the secret by extinguishing before it is anywhere near our lips and it just looks like crap.

For those of us that actually have the cajones to put the fire in our mouths before we extinguish, we are often faced with the unpleasantness of mouth burns from the wands. This has happened to me more often since I lost my wands a couple of months back. I've been using my girlfriend's fire fingers which are much shorter, circular kevlar tape-type wicks, and just plain weird to work with.

Here's how I get around these issues. It is a delicate balance between preserving the rapidly disappearing secret of fire eating and the oh-so-tender tissue in our mouf-ees:

Get 1/8" aluminum rods from your local (non-megastore) hardware supply. It's $.10 more per foot and supports local economies. They are typically sold in three to five foot lengths. Instead of using kevlar tape or (gasp) cut wicking, you can buy kevlar string from your favorite kevlar supply. Please be aware that some of the kevlar suppliers have had a serious degradation in quality lately; they are NOT all the same. Cut the rod in to 18-ish inch lengths. The long wands just look better. Put Elmers glue on the last inch of the wand...Elmer's hardens with heat. Wrap the string over the end of the wand (I typically go for two layers with a third layer band around the middle). Tie it off and you have yourself a fire eating wand.

Now on to the actual eating portion. If your best friend just showed you how to eat fire, do us all a favor and videotape yourself doing it first in order to critique yourself. Don't rely on what other people say, we are our own best (most harsh) critics. Don't start exhaling until you feel the heat of the flame. Many people start exhaling four inches from their mouths and it looks like crap. No more than an inch. It goes in to your mouth and you start exhaling a little harder. Keep exhaling and close YOUR TEETH over the wick on to the rod, not your lips. Easy peasy and as long as you don't keep your teeth on the metal you will walk away unscathed.

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Our newest member, Dr. Angelica

Pi — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:34:16 GMT

I'd like to sort of put out an open 'welcome' to our newest member, Angelica. She is a chiropractor who, quite honestly, is helping turn my life around. I was in constant pain from years of martial arts, sparring, tournament fighting, and, yes, fire dancing. Oh...and a little truck accident I had the week before the burn that left me with a fractured fibula.

Dr. Angelica is now learning fire arts and I'm hoping will take an active role in this tribe in explaining proper form for some of our more complex moves in order to avoid some of the aches and pains we all experience.

Welcome, Angelica. Now go practice.

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Good article on treatment of minor burns

Pi — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:39:50 GMT

http://www.massgeneral.org/burns/patients/

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Rare Musashii non fire video

Fire-By-Riz — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:22:15 GMT

Well I know this is a fire injury group. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTT I have known Musashii for way to many years.. most of you dont know he was the lead singer/ gutiar playier and dancer in an bollywood type band. Before he got all cool and shit doing fire..

I just ran across this Old video of him doing a party while he lived here in the south..

Sorry bro I had to show this.. I know it will burn 100 times worse than what that whip did to your hand..So placing it in an injury group is fiting.

Sit back grab a beer or two ( you will need them) and see Musashii get his groove on before he was all cool and shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koqeSXJtvvo&eurl=

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This one should count

Pi — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:15:26 GMT

We were heading back from doing a fire show in San Francisco. I had a couple of drinks so didn't want to drive. Lena was driving my truck and, due to mechanical failure, the truck rolled. It was a month before I realized I'd fractured my leg in the accident.

I am pulling rank and declaring that a fire art injury.

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does anyone else find it disturbing...

seraphus — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:50:43 GMT

Disturbing as hell that people advertise events on the "Fire Arts Injuries" tribe? Come to firedrums! Get your hand singed off! It's the coolthing to do!

Yikes! I don't know if I want to go to any event that is advertised here, that's just asking for trouble.

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new injury from inaugural staff burn (freshly posted)

jaine_is_good_juju — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:46:54 GMT

i busted out the contact staff tonight for the first time. i thought i came away fine. but i'd gotten myself pretty good just above my right elbow on the inside of my arm. i didn't realize just how much of a doozey that was. i took off my arm socks (i wasn't wearing them for my staff set) after my last burn with my meteors (having done two previous poi sets) to convince myself that i was cashed for the night. giant blister. i'd caught one of the bolts, not just the fire. HUGE raging blister. i felt it growing so i hid it tied up in a bandana until could put some caledula and bandaid on it. i am in dire need of lavender essential oils. where would one find some of that?

the picture is from 35 or so minutes after the staff accident. it's much more dramatic now. (see tribe album)

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monkey face

jaine_is_good_juju — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:50:43 GMT

shot the cheekbone! new picture for the album.

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This counts as a fire art injury, but it wasn't on fire

Pi — Thu, 18 May 2006 18:28:12 GMT

Big FU to Dash on this one, but he already knows it and truly feels bad about it:

We were out at the Grove Sunday before last and we were messing around with katanas. I was using my wicked katana, he grabbed Mem's wooden, non-wicked katana. Short version, the second knuckle on my right hand ring finger is broken.

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Hot Drink

lena — Sat, 20 May 2006 20:08:19 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFp_-aVNL0

(repost from Starlight in the SaDa Fuego tribe)

This is what happens when people who don't know wtf they're doing try to be all cool.
Dumbass...hope that's a life lesson there. Darwin would be proud.

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Musahi's Fried Handwich...

Pi — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:37:43 GMT

Vatra's screaming injury got boring as the main pic. Here's is Musahi's injury now that it has had a couple of weeks to heal.

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Finally hurt myself...a little bit

fireflinginghooligan — Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:16:48 GMT

This past Saturday night I got my first ever fire "injury" (if it can even be called that). I was spinning at an SCA party in El Paso, TX and we were up on the mountain so there was some funky wind stuff happening every so often. I lit up after it died down but in the middle of my spin when I was doing a giant butterfly, a big gust whipped through. My plane went wonky and my chains wrapped around my left arm for probably less than 2 seconds. The eyebolt on my wick left a small burn on my forearm, singed off all the hair on that part of my arm, and the wick itself left an interesting but barely visible pink woven imprint on the skin. the flying wick also singed the end of one of my hair braids. As soon as my friend emails it to me I'll post the photo we took. It's not much at all, but it's my first boo boo after something like 6 lit spins (I just started in January).

Jaimie/Shabanna

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Worst injury ever in all these years

Fire-By-Riz — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:14:22 GMT

In more years than i wish to disclose of fire dancing.. I suffered the worst injury ever tonight .. I was out at the beach alone just grabing some zen moments with the flame ...
My groove was perfect and flowing to the deliciously thick tribal rythym that was going on in my head..We all know this night .. every dance step was perfect.. Transitions so smooth you would swear someone covered you from head to toe in KY jelly..After a few spins I looked up and had a small crowd of cute girls breathless, Panties wadded up like last weeks speeding ticket..I was packing up to go home to my trusty puparoo, when the cuteist one asked if I would dance just one more time...How could I say No ?

So going against my better judgement I soaked up my largest poi and procedded to dance
just as before everything was better than perfect .. Then Bam !!! it happened !!!over my monster poi heads I hear something .....I do a spin to see what I am hearing next to me ..
heres this 12 or 13 year old punk ass kid spinning next to me and just blowing me away both in moves and in dance.... After this perfect never better night My ego is f&& king crushed..

Sometimes the worst injurys are the ones you cant take pictures off..

But I did have the last laugh after I spun my poi out .. I walked up to the punk and took out my volunteer firefighters badge .. I then asked him for ID when he didnt have it ..I asked him how old he was .. he said "I'm 15 Sir" that did it .. The punk was adressing my like his father..I then told him he needed to be 21 to fire dance on this beach and took his poi and put them in my gear bag and left...

moral of the story is if you cant beat them ... lie like hell and take thier poi!!!

if you have made it to this point of the post you have way too much free time on your hands
go practice do something just GET OFF LINE!

*** this story is fictional and does not reflect any person or persons living or dead****

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singes and blisters

Nicholas — Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:01:25 GMT

Not a big deal, but I don't get burned often, so this is all I have to offer.
I was trying to lite my river on fire slinging flaming fuel at the preloaded water, and got a little excess on my leg that took about 6 seconds before I put it out, bare legged of course.
I would like pics of the "5 winged poi" though, I think I need to make some up!

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Holy Shnikee!

Pi — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:51:19 GMT

Well, we have a new member and a new deformed, third degree hand injury. Let's all give her a big "Holy Shit" and maybe she'll share the story.

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OOPS! 1&2

DnA — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:37:38 GMT

So there I was, Opening act for "Oedipus Sex" on the Playa. I was Prometheus, the giver of fire to mankind. All I had to do was lift "something flaming" into the air to signify the creation of fire. So somehow we came up with the idea of pouring white gas in a bowl and lighting it. (genious, you say?)

So, standing in front of 50-60 people we proceed. The music starts, lighter #1 doesn't work (heckles from the crowd), undaughnted, lighter #2 does.... The low growl of fire igniting quickly quiets the crowd. Now that I have their attention, I slowly lift the bowl to show my new "creation". Ooohs and Aaahhs abound. I then lift it above my head to "offer the Gods" my gift. But instead of lowering it down like I should have at that point, I shifted the bowl to my left hand (no problem). Pushing my luck (well, I AM the god Promethius, what could go wrong?) I then shifted the bowl to my right hand, and about a half pint of flaming white gas came pouring down my arm.

I remember my arm turning yellow and blue in an instant. All I can remember thinking was "Holy shit! I'm on Fire! Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out." I managed to smother the flame (with my kilt) within a few seconds, or so I thought. When I uncovered my arm, it instantly reignited in a flash of flame. Thats when the real pain started. Luckily, I had Noel nearby as safety. He was able to smother the flames in another few seconds. (much graditude)

My tale doesn't end here...

As I'm off the stage with my hand now throbbing, I looked back to see that everything has stopped. Even the crowd seemed to be holding their breath to see what will happen next. I thought I had just ruined the show. So.... I went back out to perform. I didn't realize just how bad this burn really was. The fuel that spilled on the ground was still burning. As I reached down to grab the handles to my poi, I saw my hand in the firelight. Oh shit...

Palm charred, skin hanging from back of hand, thumb blistered to hell...

Now that I've walked back out, the crowd gave the complimentary clap that injured sports players get when walking off the field. Now I HAVE to do something. So I just lit my poi and danced for a few minutes, waited til the next scene blended with mine, and quietly got out of the way. My hand was killing me! Throbbing, burning pain.

So now I welcome any and all comments, concerns, pokes and prods. Trust me when I say that you cannot be any harder on me than I have been to myself. Mistakes were made and Lessons were learned.

I was lucky and am very thankful to have had the people around me that I did. Everyone kept their cool in a situation that they could have easily lost it. Thank you all. I know who you are and I hope you do too.

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Ok its up

gigi-d — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:05:38 GMT

there yah go my lovely breast kissed by fire oh and my ass too ;-)

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Does this count as a fire art injury?

Pi — Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:55:21 GMT

The place: Black Rock City

The time: I don't remember

The players: Me and Ro

The event: I challenged Ro to a mounted jousting tourney with our fire swords. It was time. He had been gettin' all uppity on his bicycle. We squared off and I drew the line in the sand. The fair maiden (who, to be honest, I don't remember) signaled the beginning of the match and we headed toward each other. We made a couple of passes and then he whapped me with his fire sword (fuXor!). My knuckle split open and I didn't notice it for probably twenty minutes. So it was fire swords, it was playa-related...is this a fire art injury?

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Upload them burning man injuries

Pi — Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:33:35 GMT

You know you have them

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HA! I've beaten you ALL!

Pi — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:19:00 GMT

No...not really. I have a little half-inch blister on my left index finger from a fuck up last night. I considered posting a picture of it but then you would all beat me up.

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on the mend...

marauder — Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:05:10 GMT

Well, looks like i found out the hard way that the quest for big fire sometimes requires an offering of flesh...

A little over 2 weeks ago i took a trip to the ER after i managed to get the big 5 wicked wing poi hung up behind my back. All in all i think i was extremely lucky to get out as cleanly as i did. I ended up with a nice little mess of deep second degree burns, and a fat bill for all the morphine and dilaudid they cranked to me.

the healing seems to be progressing rather rapidly, i think in part to good diet, care and vitamins. i posted a few photos if you care to take a gander side by side photos of day two and day nine.

i'm compiling a document for burn care as unfortunatly there is a ton of bad info on the subject, and even alot of the doctors i have come incontact with know verry little on burns.

ps.
you wont here me bragging about these...
(i'm not looking to piss off the fire spirits again)

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Arm Wraps

noel-ski — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:33:51 GMT

So At the SaDa Fuego thingee I met a really good chef/spinner mark, oops, who does tons of wraps but usually spins nekid or close so he gets all these cool burns. I posted a pic of him showing off his burns... I think it looks like a flock of seagulls.

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for burns

noel-ski — Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:58:33 GMT

Wha do you guys do for your burns, i heard band aids are bad. One of my burns won't dry up too much, it keeps oozing, yuck!

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Get ready for the nastiest burn yet to grace these hallowed halls

Pi — Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:45:59 GMT

Ms. Fine is in da house!

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when burning in hell..

jadenrose — Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:01:55 GMT

..watch your step!!

____________yes, finally i've got pics up of my foot..

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for those who need it..

jadenrose — Thu, 26 May 2005 20:32:38 GMT

http://www.yellowdragon-talismans.org.uk/pages/protection9.htm

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Certificate of AuthentInjury

Pi — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:45:38 GMT

I'm designing a cute little certificate to send to peeps who post their best injuries. I'll try to make it look as 'official' as possible. Start uploading them pics, d00ds!

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Upload them burning man injuries

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